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Re: New KJ, I have some questions

Post by Bigdog » Thu Dec 15, 2016 3:21 pm

I have to side with Putin because he is smarter than everyone that voted for Hilary...

There will be no hacker informational meeting for the deli gates before the electors vote...

President Trump Wins ..SLAM DUNK... :wink:



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Re: New KJ, I have some questions

Post by The Lone Ranger » Thu Dec 15, 2016 7:07 pm

Bigdog wrote:I have to side with Putin because he is smarter than everyone that voted for Hilary...

There will be no hacker informational meeting for the deli gates before the electors vote...

President Trump Wins ..SLAM DUNK... :wink:

8) You a loyal American are siding with the enemy? You know there is a word for that it starts with a capital T. You won't support so called Socialists like Sanders, Hillary and Obama, but you side with a Russian dictator that used to run the KGB, an organization set up to destroy Western Democracies? If Trump wins we all lose, may be this time our freedom. He won't last for two reasons even the Republicans aren't going to let him get away with playing around with the Russians. Then of course there is his conflict of interest problems, since he won't divest himself of his financial holdings. With these two problems staring him square in the face, he could be impeached within the next year.

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Re: New KJ, I have some questions

Post by Bigdog » Fri Dec 16, 2016 4:43 pm

The democommies are mad because the Russians out voted the SEIU, the black panthers, and the 11 million illegal aliens
( and how can it still be 11 million for over 5 years with no increase even though thousands come in every month)
Every true American should be greatfull and demand proof of ID to cast your vote. That would eliminate much confusion and any doubt about who voted and how many times and if they were eligible or not. The honor system of voting isn't working.

I consider anyone that embraces socialists and commie agendas traitors to this country and the founding fathers.

Look up th meanings of socialist...it says that socialism is the gateway to communism.

Definition of socialism
1
: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
2
a : a system of society or group living in which there is no private property
b : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state
3
: a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done



They want to create a one world government to enslave and control the entire population..... Progressive Socialist. Communist is all the same to me. That is why Hilary lost.....normal people saw right through the deception and code words used by the elite to confuse the sheep.

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Re: New KJ, I have some questions

Post by The Lone Ranger » Fri Dec 16, 2016 7:44 pm

Bigdog wrote:The democommies are mad because the Russians out voted the SEIU, the black panthers, and the 11 million illegal aliens
( and how can it still be 11 million for over 5 years with no increase even though thousands come in every month)
Every true American should be greatfull and demand proof of ID to cast your vote. That would eliminate much confusion and any doubt about who voted and how many times and if they were eligible or not. The honor system of voting isn't working.

I consider anyone that embraces socialists and commie agendas traitors to this country and the founding fathers.

Look up th meanings of socialist...it says that socialism is the gateway to communism.

Definition of socialism
1
: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
2
a : a system of society or group living in which there is no private property
b : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state
3
: a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done



They want to create a one world government to enslave and control the entire population..... Progressive Socialist. Communist is all the same to me. That is why Hilary lost.....normal people saw right through the deception and code words used by the elite to confuse the sheep.

8) Yeah an you said you side with Putin the biggest Commie Rat Fink of them all, I rest my case.

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Re: New KJ, I have some questions

Post by Bigdog » Fri Dec 16, 2016 11:18 pm

Russia is actually more of a democracy now than at anytime before...

Obama really scared Putin ...he pulled up his panties and told Putin to knock it off or we'll do something... :roll: :redface: how freakin embarrassing.... Obama is taking his ball and going to Hawaii.... :lol:
Whenever there is trouble he plays golf...
Obamas going to do something and then leave the mess for trump to handle...

If Putin was a commie Russia would already be communist and I don't hear anyone saying that it's communist again.

I would rather Putin have my back than Hilary.

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Re: New KJ, I have some questions

Post by The Lone Ranger » Sun Dec 18, 2016 12:05 am

Bigdog wrote:Russia is actually more of a democracy now than at anytime before...

Obama really scared Putin ...he pulled up his panties and told Putin to knock it off or we'll do something... :roll: :redface: how freakin embarrassing.... Obama is taking his ball and going to Hawaii.... :lol:
Whenever there is trouble he plays golf...
Obamas going to do something and then leave the mess for trump to handle...

If Putin was a commie Russia would already be communist and I don't hear anyone saying that it's communist again.

I would rather Putin have my back than Hilary.

8) Putin have your back really? He is a thug, a Russian mafia person personified, he ran the KGB back when Russians were shocking people with electrodes on their gentiles. If he is a Capitalist now, it's the worst form of Capitalist, a true robber baron. You are always talking about panties, did you ever serve in the military, did you ever put yourself in harm's way? The persons that always talk so brave are really what veterans call chicken hawks. They don't mind spilling blood as long as it is some other persons blood. Just like Bush II left Obama to cleanup his mess, seems that is all Presidents do now, is fix other Presidents problems. Russia is not a democracy, it doesn't have any of the save guards this country has as far as protecting the rights of the citizens. Even the press can be murdered there and nothing is done.

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Re: New KJ, I have some questions

Post by Bigdog » Sun Dec 18, 2016 3:33 am

First of all the US hasn't fought a war to win since WW2. Korea, Vietnam, Gulf 1 and Gulf 2 were not fought with the intention of winning because we had to be politically correct for the rest of the world because we had to worry about what they would think of us. So all the service people that died were sacrificed. Blame political correctness for their deaths.

I remember during Vietnam we couldn't bomb past this line and couldn't follow the enemy into Laos. Same thing happened in Korea and Gulf 1&2.... We always have to worry about collateral damage. Oh what will the rest of the world think about us.... In WW 2 the Germans didn't worry about killing civilians while fire bombing England every night ..when we dropped the atomic bombs on Japan we didn't worry about collateral damage. Everyone was doing what they needed to do to win... That doesn't happen anymore. Political correctness is all they worry about..doesn't matter if it cost our side many lives needlessly... We were politically correct while they died...Hitler didn't care about political correctness while he gassed 6 million Jews .. Japan wasn't worried about political correctness when they bombed Pearl Harbor.... Terrorists weren't worried about political correctness when they brought down the towers...But we are.... Stupid stupid stupid...

If you actually want to fight a war to win you kill everybody on the enemy's side until they quit..just like in WW1 & WW2.... if you don't want to get killed then leave the area. You will never win a war by being politically correct...and worrying about how the rest of the world will view us.... For the record we did not win Korea, Vietnam, Gulf 1&2. We slinked off with our tail between our legs...4 times... Obama is slinking away now like he has 4 the last 8 years...we are the laughing stock of the world under his presidential embroidered panties... We look weaker that wet noodles piled on soggy toilet paper..

Putin does not look weak or act weak. And he is respected throughout the world...like him or not....not so with Obama. Trump doesn't sound weak...or act weak. They rest of the world is starting to pay attention to us again... The president of the Philippines isn't worried about being politically correct.... He doesn't look weak... Liberals make us look weak...they love being politically correct... The leader of North Korea isn't worried about being politically correct... Political correctness is a sign of weakness.... Obama is full of it... I'm drawing a line in the sand right here,,,, no maybe right here...no how about over here and then I'm going golfing and hope everyone forgets about that imaginary line ..meaningless line I was only joking about ....I wasn't really serious....hope I didn't offend anyone....it's just a little line...doesn't mean anything.. :roll:

Putin stop hacking us or I'll buy a new putter and then you'll see I wasn't kidding around.... FOREEEEeeeee.... :lol:

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Re: New KJ, I have some questions

Post by Bigdog » Sun Dec 18, 2016 3:46 am

Please China can we have our drone back... How did they get it in the first place who let that happen...should be a court Marshall.

I'll be in Hawaii on the tee practicing my political correctness... if you need me..I hope I finish this round without interruption...I really feel powerful swinging my putter...look I can draw a meaningless lines in the sand trap with my putter...

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Re: New KJ, I have some questions

Post by The Lone Ranger » Sun Dec 18, 2016 9:09 am

Bigdog wrote:First of all the US hasn't fought a war to win since WW2. Korea, Vietnam, Gulf 1 and Gulf 2 were not fought with the intention of winning because we had to be politically correct for the rest of the world because we had to worry about what they would think of us. So all the service people that died were sacrificed. Blame political correctness for their deaths.

I remember during Vietnam we couldn't bomb past this line and couldn't follow the enemy into Laos. Same thing happened in Korea and Gulf 1&2.... We always have to worry about collateral damage. Oh what will the rest of the world think about us.... In WW 2 the Germans didn't worry about killing civilians while fire bombing England every night ..when we dropped the atomic bombs on Japan we didn't worry about collateral damage. Everyone was doing what they needed to do to win... That doesn't happen anymore. Political correctness is all they worry about..doesn't matter if it cost our side many lives needlessly... We were politically correct while they died...Hitler didn't care about political correctness while he gassed 6 million Jews .. Japan wasn't worried about political correctness when they bombed Pearl Harbor.... Terrorists weren't worried about political correctness when they brought down the towers...But we are.... Stupid stupid stupid...

If you actually want to fight a war to win you kill everybody on the enemy's side until they quit..just like in WW1 & WW2.... if you don't want to get killed then leave the area. You will never win a war by being politically correct...and worrying about how the rest of the world will view us.... For the record we did not win Korea, Vietnam, Gulf 1&2. We slinked off with our tail between our legs...4 times... Obama is slinking away now like he has 4 the last 8 years...we are the laughing stock of the world under his presidential embroidered panties... We look weaker that wet noodles piled on soggy toilet paper..

Putin does not look weak or act weak. And he is respected throughout the world...like him or not....not so with Obama. Trump doesn't sound weak...or act weak. They rest of the world is starting to pay attention to us again... The president of the Philippines isn't worried about being politically correct.... He doesn't look weak... Liberals make us look weak...they love being politically correct... The leader of North Korea isn't worried about being politically correct... Political correctness is a sign of weakness.... Obama is full of it... I'm drawing a line in the sand right here,,,, no maybe right here...no how about over here and then I'm going golfing and hope everyone forgets about that imaginary line ..meaningless line I was only joking about ....I wasn't really serious....hope I didn't offend anyone....it's just a little line...doesn't mean anything.. :roll:

Putin stop hacking us or I'll buy a new putter and then you'll see I wasn't kidding around.... FOREEEEeeeee.... :lol:

8) First of all the world in general was exhausted after WWII. It took years the rebuild Europe, and the rest of the former infrastructure's and economies destroyed during the war. During that time the U.S. saw one of the greatest expansions in wealth and rise in living standards of any country in history. Before and during WWII war could still be waged by armies without the possibility of blowing up all of humanity. With the bomb and more and more countries having the bomb, diplomacy seemed the better way to go. What good does it do to win a war if everyone is dead?

So you are saying if we really want to win a war we kill everyone, just go Medieval on an entire population, men, women, the old, and children, so much for Merry Christmas. Is is weakness or is it using common sense to work things out? Wars are expensive, you never know how they will end, and it is going to cost not only a price in treasure but also in blood that has to be paid by someone. If you remember bigdog the peace treaties for Korea, Vietnam and the Gulf Wars were all overseen by Republican Presidents not Liberals, respectfully Eisenhower Korea, Nixon Vietnam, the Gulf Wars Bush I and Bush II.

The concept for Political Correctness is a basic teaching of Christ which is in all major religions of the world, it's called the Golden Rule "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you". When we fought WWII it was to preserve the good things not the evil. Yes the Germans did some terrible things so did we so did the Russians and the Japanese, the war was so terrible there hasn't been one since. Since to have another world war would result in the complete destruction of all humanity. Putin is our enemy and should not be treated as a friend period.

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Re: New KJ, I have some questions

Post by The Lone Ranger » Sun Dec 18, 2016 9:20 am

Bigdog wrote:Please China can we have our drone back... How did they get it in the first place who let that happen...should be a court Marshall.

I'll be in Hawaii on the tee practicing my political correctness... if you need me..I hope I finish this round without interruption...I really feel powerful swinging my putter...look I can draw a meaningless lines in the sand trap with my putter...

8) So what is the alternative bigdog deliver an ultimatum to China that unless we get the drone back, were are going to drop the big one on you? Oh that's right they have the big one to, now what do I do? That is why you have to think these things out and remember the law of physics for every action there is an opposite but equal reaction. One thing that Trump is right about they might as well keep it since they have learned all of it's secrets and it is no longer a mystery.

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Post by Bigdog » Sun Dec 18, 2016 11:50 am

Yes..kill them all I like the scorched earth policy...remember the little children the Vietcong Boobie trapped with gernades and sent them to kill GIs? And our soldiers were left with no alternative but to kill,or be killed?
During the WW2 we had grand mothers, mothers and children working to feed our war machine by building tanks, planes, guns, bullets, farming to grow food for the troops to keep us winning....so you see in reality ...nobody is really innocent if they do these things...you don't have to be on the front line to aide the war effort....this is why you have to kill everyone until they want to quit...

Those presidents used the peace treaties as a way to save face because of political correctness...if we said to hell with what the rest of the world thinks and actually fought those wars to win we would have sent a very clear message to the rest of the world not to mess with us..... Being politically correct kill 50,000 GIs in Vietnam, about the same in Korea... Gulf two would not have been needed if they were not politically correct in gulf 1 .....think about it...we should have gone into Baghdad in gulf 1 and finished the job...but no...we had to be politically correct because the rest of the world was watching us adjust our politically correct panties... Our people fighting in Iraq now are not aloud to fight to win..... More politically correct BS... I do not want to be part of an army that wages a war based on being politically correct...those service people are being sacrificed at the expense of looking good to the rest of the word....fighting terrorist that are not politically correct is no way to win.....they run and hide in mosques because we won't bomb a mosque...pure insanity.... They is no safe haven during a war if you want to actually win it.... So letting our people get killed sounds like a war winning tactic... The only way to prove you are not our enemy is to not be there...if you are there then you must suffer the consequences for your actions and being there makes you part of the problem... Grandmothers, mothers and children are somehow helping the terrorists, by feeding them, clothing them, or making bullets and bombs... Not everyone is innocent.

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Post by The Lone Ranger » Sun Dec 18, 2016 12:15 pm

Bigdog wrote:Yes..kill them all I like the scorched earth policy...remember the little children the Vietcong Boobie trapped with gernades and sent them to kill GIs? And our soldiers were left with no alternative but to kill,or be killed?
During the WW2 we had grand mothers, mothers and children working to feed our war machine by building tanks, planes, guns, bullets, farming to grow food for the troops to keep us winning....so you see in reality ...nobody is really innocent if they do these things...you don't have to be on the front line to aide the war effort....this is why you have to kill everyone until they want to quit...

Those presidents used the peace treaties as a way to save face because of political correctness...if we said to hell with what the rest of the world thinks and actually fought those wars to win we would have sent a very clear message to the rest of the world not to mess with us..... Being politically correct kill 50,000 GIs in Vietnam, about the same in Korea... Gulf two would not have been needed if they were not politically correct in gulf 1 .....think about it...we should have gone into Baghdad in gulf 1 and finished the job...but no...we had to be politically correct because the rest of the world was watching us adjust our politically correct panties... Our people fighting in Iraq now are not aloud to fight to win..... More politically correct BS... I do not want to be part of an army that wages a war based on being politically correct...those service people are being sacrificed at the expense of looking good to the rest of the word....fighting terrorist that are not politically correct is no way to win.....they run and hide in mosques because we won't bomb a mosque...pure insanity.... They is no safe haven during a war if you want to actually win it.... So letting our people get killed sounds like a war winning tactic... The only way to prove you are not our enemy is to not be there...if you are there then you must suffer the consequences for your actions and being there makes you part of the problem... Grandmothers, mothers and children are somehow helping the terrorists, by feeding them, clothing them, or making bullets and bombs... Not everyone is innocent.
8) Bigdog two wrongs don't make a right. Using children to fight wars is wrong whether it is in Asia, Africa, or the Middle East. Our government put our troops in harm's way to begin with. In the case of Vietnam we broke our promise to the Vietnamese people to settle their own disputes, just like in Korea. We got into the Gulf wars to protect the oil fields of Saudi Arabia, since at that time we were dependent on that source of energy. The reason we didn't go to Baghdad in the first Gulf War was because Bush I knew if we took down the dictator it would cause the country to break up into civil war which has happened. Iraq was seen as a buffer state against Iran, when it was weakened then Iranian influence entered unchecked. We have totally mishandled the Middle East and after a over 15 year war are still deeply mired in that region of the world. I don't think that the resisting of committing war crimes is political correctness just a matter of up holding the principles this country was founded on. If we no longer believe in those principles, tell me what makes us better than any country that commits war crimes?

P.S. Once again those Presidents that made the treaties were all Republicans not Liberal Democrats. So it is the Republican Party that is the party of appeasement. In the case of Iraq that with drawl treaty was drawn up and signed by Bush II, all Obama did was follow through on a treaty commitment by the former administration, that had Congressional Approval.

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Post by Bigdog » Sun Dec 18, 2016 4:22 pm

The bottom line is you can not fight wars and win if you are so worried about being politically correct....your solders will get killed for nothing....political correctness gets people killed needlessly

Doesn't matter who the president was or is...political correctness has no place in a war IF you want to win. And you don't want to lose all you people doing it.

If Germany or Japan could have bombed factories in the US they would have in a heartbeat...they would have killed grandmothers, mothers and children...they did it in all the other countries they bombed and we did it too. We killed more and we won. We killed so many they had to quit....we out manufactured them which enabled us to out kill them.... No political correctness ever won a war

First you try to negotiate a settlement...if nothing else works you do everything in your power to enable the win.

If you are in a fight with someone that truly wants to kill you are you going to worry about hitting him below the belt? Are you going to debate whether it's the politically correct thing to do? If you do you'll be dead fast.

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Post by The Lone Ranger » Mon Dec 19, 2016 8:36 am

Bigdog wrote:The bottom line is you can not fight wars and win if you are so worried about being politically correct....your solders will get killed for nothing....political correctness gets people killed needlessly

Doesn't matter who the president was or is...political correctness has no place in a war IF you want to win. And you don't want to lose all you people doing it.

If Germany or Japan could have bombed factories in the US they would have in a heartbeat...they would have killed grandmothers, mothers and children...they did it in all the other countries they bombed and we did it too. We killed more and we won. We killed so many they had to quit....we out manufactured them which enabled us to out kill them.... No political correctness ever won a war

First you try to negotiate a settlement...if nothing else works you do everything in your power to enable the win.

If you are in a fight with someone that truly wants to kill you are you going to worry about hitting him below the belt? Are you going to debate whether it's the politically correct thing to do? If you do you'll be dead fast.
8) The bottom line is that no nation can continue to be on a constant state of war. Especially if that nation is not strong economically with a modern infrastructure. If the price of victory is the complete destruction and annihilation of an enemy that is genocide a war crime. If you decide to fight to the knife, and carry on a total war the result will be the complete destruction of the world as we know it. Even Trump isn't talking about total war bigdog, he is talking about safe zones for civilians in Syria, which of course we will have to pay for and maintain security.

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Re: New KJ, I have some questions

Post by The Lone Ranger » Mon Dec 19, 2016 10:23 am

8) Today the Electoral College makes it's vote known. Even if Trump wins I think in the long run he and the Republican party lose. With complete control of all 3 branches a possibility, we have to see if unchecked power runs amuck. If the plans to dismantle Medicare and Social Security go forward, and no new jobs are created, the very people who put Trump in office will yank him and his party out in the mid term elections. It is very important for the Republicans to make good if they want to control things for more than 2 years. By the next Presidential cycle the demographics will be too much against them, unless they start expanding their political base.

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